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 Post subject: Genetics of Sexlinked Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:52 pm 
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Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (FACTS)

Correct geno symbols for Cinnamon & Silver (red eye)
c+= cinnamon and its sex linked
S= silver phenotype and its sex linked as it has to be

The following is totally INCORRECT gene/information on Cinnamon and Silver (red eye) that may be seen elsewhere.

Myth 1) The gene (i+) is present in Cinnamon or Silver (red eye)
i + = lavender
This is rubbish

Myth 2) Duck genetics can be used for guinea fowl
This is rubbish

Myth 3) Cinnamon & Silver guinea fowl (red Eye) Mode of inheritance is Autosomal such as recessive
This is rubbish

Myth 4) that googling genetics - copy & paste is knowledge
This is rubbish

Myth 5) a second/3rd year beginner has practical, genuine, season experience, detailed knowledge of guinea fowl and/or their genetics
This is rubbish

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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:22 pm 
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Hey good post Ace

Good to know the right genes and the symbols for them too not that I know much about genetics


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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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It is important to correct the false information out there, well done Ace again that will assist so so many interested in this colour

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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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I hope its ok to re-post this comparison here from GG but I think its worth the new breeders to see the red eye comparison

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28/10/12 wrote:
All these are true red eyes and all are sex-linked. As you can see they all have the same eye colour "red eyes" because they have a genuine red eye colouring and so officially named and referred to as "red eyes" the Cinnamon and Silver guinea fowls are also officially named and referred to as "red eyes" as logical being "red eye" sex-linked.

Some pet names have been used by some such as

Ruby eyes
Plum eyes
Strawberry eyes
Cherry eyes
ect...

However these are not correct and only refer to fruit and gem stones.

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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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Thats fine Oz but just next time check with Tim first ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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Ace wrote:
Myth 1) The gene (i+) is present in Cinnamon or Silver (red eye)
i + = lavender
This is rubbish


Can the cinnamon and silver carry the lavender gene, or is it somehow mutually exclusive?


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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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(i+) is NOT present in Cinnamon or Silver (red eye) Silver is not + but cinnamon is ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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Ace wrote:
(i+) is NOT present in Cinnamon or Silver (red eye) Silver is not + but cinnamon is ;)


Okay.
So when you breed a cinnamon to a lavendar, none of the offsping carry the lavendar gene.
I understand they wouldn't be visibly lavendar, what happens to the lavendar gene?


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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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carlisle wrote:
Ace wrote:
(i+) is NOT present in Cinnamon or Silver (red eye) Silver is not + but cinnamon is ;)


Okay.
So when you breed a cinnamon to a lavendar, none of the offsping carry the lavendar gene.
I understand they wouldn't be visibly lavendar, what happens to the lavendar gene?

As you know Carlise we have had this conversation many times but again

Cinnamon x lavender = (C) (i+/c+s) --- (H) (c+s) What most overlook especially these know it all newcomers with 5 minutes experience is phenotype V genotype and which is which with cinnamon and silver thats the important factor and they don't know because it won't come up in a google search ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Genetics of Cinnamon & Silver (THE FACTS)
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Ace wrote:
they don't know because it won't come up in a google search ;)

Just a note on that Ace, You are right Google or any other search engine has NO access to GG so the full details will not appear in any search.

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