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Author:	Ace [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:52 pm ]
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For over a year or so we (APF - the real people/breeders) have warned other real people/breeders of a possible scam out there regarding a fake mutation called "Mocha" that DOES NOT EXIST in the real world, never has, never will its all bullsh--. On sunday 25th August 2013 in a little bird auction at euroa victoria Lot - VENDOR --------- DESCRIPTION 105 - S Kidman - 1 x Mocha (Dark eyed Cinnamon ) Guinea Fowl 106 - S Kidman - 1 x Mocha (Dark eyed Cinnamon ) Guinea Fowl The buyer (possibly a little girl?) has stated as FACT the following on a very, very small chooky site (screenshots on file) Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:13 am wrote: I was the person who bought the "Mocha" guinea fowl. The birds have since molted out into near normal looking birds Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:37 am wrote: they aren't what I paid for.... If only she listened to us Now firstly the ONLY real new cinnamon mutation is "Dark Eyed Cinnamon" developed and named by Peacocks Australia Qld is NOT called "Mocha" or by any other name. Second that PA has only supplied 3 breeders with the real mutation "Dark Eyed Cinnamon" and they are ALL listed in GG and none with the name S Kidman. The "Mocha" pictures are now in GG and you will see its a pearl with a slight wash due to poor breeding with cinnamons/splits and without any doubt its NO mutation BUYERS BEWARE!!!!!!! Don't get RIPPED OFF please.

Author:	Roundyard [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:17 pm ]
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Wow some people as fairly stupid hey After all the warnings here for more than 12 months that idiot bids and buys them no sympathy from me as we know she reads here all the time

Author:	Roundyard [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:20 pm ]
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Just looked at the pictures My old blind dog could see its not a mutation

Author:	Ace [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:27 pm ]
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I have just added 2 more picture BOTH CLEARLY showing pearls with pheno split wash from lavender these idiots have no idea what so ever seriously they are so stupid it hurts Stick to hybrids stupid its all you can do!

Author:	Ace [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:28 am ]
Post subject:	Re: "Mocha" is NOT a mutation - Beware!
For everyone that wants to see REAL DE Cinnamons here are....... keets viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23048&start=250 Adults viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34199 APF is the ONLY place you will see these REAL mutation The fakes with their fake pictures hang out on FYP, sad turds.

Author:	bimguinea [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:49 am ]
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Some people are to silly to help they just have the mental capacity of a flea so they are happy to get ripped off at an auction Its kinda sad they have no idea what a mutation is but then I laugh Is there a TV show for "classic idiots"? I bet that chook site would be on every week They are a joke hey

Author:	guineafowl [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:15 am ]
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Could that girl who bought the fake mocha contact the police about the ripoff? Some people are such lowlifes No wonder I hate auctions Thank you for the warnings

Author:	PeepGuineafowl [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:53 am ]
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I love that attempt at justifying that the 2 fake mocha's are still some how a mutation when the most nieve person can clearly see its not but they are desperate and chook pluckers and bean bangers giving advice on there is hilarious Its no wonder its the fake joke forum FJF could be its new name

Author:	GUINEA FOWL [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:41 pm ]
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I guess "There's a sucker born every minute" as they say and the seller found that gullible sucker

Author:	JonksGuineas [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:47 pm ]
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Good job Johno to remove the editing of those 2 pictures and see both "unnamed" and "2" and the same pearl colour, I have 20 of those running around would they like to pay $300 for them some people are just born thick

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