Thank you mummaroo very good of you to post the instruction I really appreciate that.
I agree – mummaroo = by restating the instructions it reinforces the subject matter = much appreciated

Soozorps, that is terrible did you contact the person you got them off and did they explain? I have read that even with treatment only 50% will survive so the odds are not good it that is true? no I did not contact as there was no point really – the birds are in my possession now. It is often not easy to pick that a bird has Cocci until it is too late and many don’t see the signs in faeces as it can be quickly spread into the soil by all the birds.
I am not complaining just stating that it happened and to show that the birds can still die even when treated. I am not sure of the odds regards survival with such a serious infestation and I am not expecting anything = that way if the rest do survive it is a bonus

Soozorps,

I must have been very disappointing for you to receive unwell birds. more a shock than anything – but I knew with the 2nd bird I handled as it ‘shit’ blood all over my clean clothes when I picked it up It can leave you with an empty feeling. I hope the surviving birds continue to improve, its surprising how much the birds can be affected by such a set back. the recovering birds are eating like horses and are doing better than I thought they would I have often found these birds take a long time to recover and some just never quiet reach their potential. these will never grow to their full size they are ‘stunted’ by this - but the genetics are still there = breed from them and care for the young correctly and well and they will be the ones to impress

I am still not sure how people are willing to sell or give away sick birds, I don’t believe that the people that sent them were aware that some were infested
It also shows that an experienced poultry person such as yourself can be caught out just like a person new to the fancy. we will all get ‘caught out’ at least 3 times in the time we breed poultry - I now have one to go

I have often wondered if birds that have had such an infection, have a reduced immune system. I think this may be the case = I had a clutch of gorgeous White Orps hatch 2008 and the heat wave and fires hit us in 2009 I foolishly wet my birds to keep them cool [out of desperation in 49c days and 38c nights ] but NEVER again will I wet any bird to keep it cool I use other methods now – anyway – back on topic = of the original 18 Whites only 4 survived the heat = 1 ckl 3 pullets – all contracted Cocci – they were in a pen with a dirt floor = that is how we found out it was in the ground where we were living. One pullet died from it and we nearly lost the ckl but he and the other 2 pullets pulled thru – the girls recovered fully and well but he never fully recovered, he was shown as a ckl at the 2009 Nats [ only to show the damage this Cocci does] – he was not placed – he grew rather well after that show and was shown again at the 2010 Nat Show and placed 1st as a 1st yr rooster – but he was never really ‘strong’ - he passed away [I believe from the damage done] about 3months after the 2010 show – leaving behind the 2 girls that hatched at the same time and 4 pure WA bloodline offspring, also a number of half WA birds at another breeders property. This makes them more susceptible to other diseases as they age. you could be right I know some cattle people talk about such links between calves with scoures and bloat. Nothing scientifically proven though. we have seen that link but without tests covering years and hundreds of thousands of cattle no one other than the farmer losing the animals will say “this does happen”

Rhode Red

I have often wondered if birds that have had such an infection, have a reduced imune system. This makes them more susceptible to other diseases as they age.

It makes sense to me – but who would admit to having goats that have been exposed!! Most don’t want to admit publicly or even privately that ANY disease or infestation has occurred at their place.

I am wondering if Goats milk Yoghurt might help?

It makes sense to me – but who would admit to having goats that have been exposed!! Most don’t want to admit publicly or even privately that ANY disease or infestation has occurred at their place.